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« on: February 04, 2012, 12:09:38 AM » |
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Hi Guys, I've finally got together £500 to get started with wfp. (Every previous attempt has been snookered by something else going wrong!) I was thinking of buying this set-up and then a DI system. I'm in a soft water area. Or should I build my own? Would be very grateful for any comments. Cheers Guys. You are not allowed to view links.
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Craig McNeil
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2012, 12:55:30 AM » |
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The listing has been removed...
From the description, it was a John Hewitt trolley and for someone starting out it's a decent enough setup. If you're confident you could look into building your own trolley as you can save a few notes and build a superior system for the cash.
By DI system I take it you mean a DI container only as that's all you need in a soft water area.
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Properjob
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2012, 01:02:58 AM » |
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It can still be found on ebay, and yes you are spot on. It was a John Hewitt trolley with a 30ft pole and brush. I fancy building my own but I cant find a list of componants.  |
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Craig McNeil
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2012, 01:06:08 AM » |
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Think about it an you'll be surprised at how little you need. A sack trolley to put everything on, a pump and pump controller, a battery, some hose and a few barrels to keep you supplied with water. Voila!
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kirky
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2012, 12:28:19 PM » |
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go for a back pack our kid trollys are a right pain in the you know what  |
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Properjob
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2012, 01:52:46 PM » |
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Thanks Kirky,.................now looking at WCW back pack.  |
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liphook
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2012, 01:57:01 PM » |
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wcw backpack will be a good start and is cheap enough
wcw backpack £140
di and resin for around £160 (25l)
get some used 25l containers from a car wash for free
leaving £200 from your budget to buy a gardiners clx pole, spend qn extra £30 and get the 27ft and it will be the only pole you will need
all done easily in your £500 budget, as you get used to the job you can then look into a trolley or van mount, or stick with backpacks.
as an extra if you can stretch it, the aqua-dapter is a great tool for the pole to give easy control of the water.
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Properjob
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2012, 02:07:30 PM » |
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Thanks Liphook,
I dont know whether to get the hoselock or microbore tap when i order the WCW backpack. How do i then attatch my pole hose to the backpack? Could you give me a quick step-by-step on how to do it so i can order all the parts in one go? I've looked at the aqua adapter, is that safe for the pump in the backpack as i have read people saying it can blow them, not sure if its true or not.
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pootwo
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2012, 03:37:29 PM » |
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not seen that aqdapter sade be for ,but its the same as any outher tap it stops water ,and iv got back pack and a troly and van mount and aqdapter ,and its the best tap iv used and iv not had a fogy tap to compear it to ,i woodent bother with troly from john ,cos itl be too hevy it has the same pump as BP has .purefreedum troly when you can a ford one .back pack too start with and haris pole converted
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liphook
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2012, 03:50:57 PM » |
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Thanks Liphook,
I dont know whether to get the hoselock or microbore tap when i order the WCW backpack. How do i then attatch my pole hose to the backpack? Could you give me a quick step-by-step on how to do it so i can order all the parts in one go? I've looked at the aqua adapter, is that safe for the pump in the backpack as i have read people saying it can blow them, not sure if its true or not.
you have 2 options 1 microbore female on backpack hose, then fit the male microbore to pole hose and it will work fine 2 hozelock - this one is more fiddley as the backpack hose is around 6-8mm so wont fit onto a female, you can use a male 6mm to hozelock but then you have the same problem fitting a hozelock to pole hose if using 6mm..........what i done is this, get standard hose pipe, slide over the backpack hose about 6 inches, then tighten jubilee clip or two as tight as you can round it, then the standard hose will fit standard hozelock female.......the use 6mm to hozelock male on the pole hope that helps |
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Properjob
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2012, 04:06:16 PM » |
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The gardiner pole comes with the option to have a flow valve already fitted, are these ok to use because i would have thought blocking the water would damage the pump.
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Craig McNeil
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2012, 04:08:06 PM » |
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The pump on backpacks will cut out automatically once it detects a build up of pressure.
I don't like the flow valves Gardiners supply as the plastic handle breaks off quite easily.
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Properjob
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2012, 04:10:06 PM » |
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Great thanks for that Guys. |
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liphook
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2012, 04:52:56 PM » |
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as craig said, it will be fine. most pumps have pressure switches which cut the supply when it detects pressure, thus saving the pump damage
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windyman
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2012, 06:02:48 PM » |
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I have WCW backpack, they're great. Get microbore fitting tho, hozelock is way to big and breaks easier.
Then just buy a cheap sack truck which u can stick backpack on if too heavy, then you'll have a trolley system too. And the backpack is fine using a tap to stop flow.
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Properjob
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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2012, 10:37:10 PM » |
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Thanks Everyone. After much discussion (with the wife) we are going for WCW Backpack, Microbore tubing, Gardiners CLX 27' pole and 11L DI. Going to order on Monday. Thanks again. |
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2012, 10:44:54 PM » |
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After much discussion (with the wife) ........... THE GAFFER.....
My effy got no say in what i do........... thats the bloody way i like it
what you buying now an how much is that..... if i had a pound...........
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Properjob
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2012, 10:46:17 PM » |
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Lol......... |
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Aqua-dapter
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2012, 09:32:13 PM » |
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Hi Properjob, as craig said, it will be fine. most pumps have pressure switches which cut the supply when it detects pressure, thus saving the pump damage
If you watch the video on our homepage, you can hear the pump on the backpack cutting out when the Aqua-dapter stops the flow. Some pumps/controllers will 'pulse' occasionally to test whether the water can flow again or not. So, even though the pump will stop, it's best not to use your Aqua-dapter (or another control device) to leave your water switched off for a long period of time, e.g. over half an hour. We have backpacks, but the WCW backpacks are also good, and (although they haven't updated the images on their website yet) they have the latest Aqua-dapter Mk3 in stock too, which also comes with a length of pole hose. Paul |
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Properjob
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2012, 11:41:09 PM » |
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Thanks Paul,
I will take a look.
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Properjob
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2012, 12:07:58 AM » |
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I was given the opportunity to view another members set up over the weekend. (Thank you Alfresco, you are a true gent) I liked what I saw and he explained everything in depth. This got me thinking that I too should get a van mount! I spent last night carefully scanning the web for prices and trying to work out if it could be done. I cant quite get there, so I thought I would go with the original idea of a back pack and a decent pole set up. Later in the year a 250 ltr tank, a shurflo pump and a controller could be got for about £300. Then I will be sorted.. |
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Aqua-dapter
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2012, 12:34:37 AM » |
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Yes, I think a backpack is a good way to start, as it can still be useful when you have a van mount, getting to awkward to reach places etc, so it isn't a 'wasted' investment in equipment. If you get a sack truck for your backpack too, you don't have the strain of carrying the backpack around.
Paul
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Craig McNeil
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2012, 11:29:26 AM » |
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Totally agree. Don't think you can carry a backpack on your back. It won't happen!
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Aqua-dapter
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2012, 11:32:51 AM » |
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Totally agree. Don't think you can carry a backpack on your back. It won't happen!
Yes, don't even think about putting it on your back, I meant carrying by the handle  |
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Properjob
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2012, 12:20:31 AM » |
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Already have a suitable trolley.... Backpack, CLX 27' pole, Full DI vessel, Vikan brush head and TDS all ordered Only need some 25L containers now! |
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