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« on: March 09, 2010, 10:56:39 PM » |
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anyone do shops fronts with wfp, guy in town who does lots of the shops as started doing it as he just changed over, but to me seems a waste of water, and time. plus hose everywhere , just dont seem neccessary to me. He seems to have abandoned his ladders and all trad. gear altogether.
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stuart mci
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 11:00:07 PM » |
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nope just as easy to use a trad pole on shop plates unless there is higher stuff. that and it could cause no end of hazards with hoses and water
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ronnie B
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 11:00:51 PM » |
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Normal shop fronts at ground level on the High street? Madness. I recon though he is just like a kid with a new toy. Once he realizes its actually quicker to do it trad at that hight and less hastle, he will go back.
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paneintheglass
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 11:02:31 PM » |
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nope just as easy to use a trad pole on shop plates unless there is higher stuff. that and it could cause no end of hazards with hoses and water
no these standard shop fronts, maybe odd bit of trad. pole work. |
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paneintheglass
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2010, 11:04:22 PM » |
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Normal shop fronts at ground level on the High street? Madness. I recon though he is just like a kid with a new toy. Once he realizes its actually quicker to do it trad at that hight and less hastle, he will go back.
I think ur right, he loves it, he caned more water on one shop than i would do on4 to 6 houses  |
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stuart mci
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2010, 11:11:05 PM » |
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nope just as easy to use a trad pole on shop plates unless there is higher stuff. that and it could cause no end of hazards with hoses and water
no these standard shop fronts, maybe odd bit of trad. pole work. i am only 5ft 6 so most shops for me need at least the top 6 inches trad poled |
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2010, 11:15:52 PM » |
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same here mate, the guy working with me much taller so handy for lots of windows |
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 12:32:33 AM » |
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we do all the pubs and clubs and bout half the shops here u know hair dressers chinese's tanning shops coners shops chippys...........never use the pole on the big plate glass u use far to much water and it takes blooming ages
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kempy
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 01:08:06 AM » |
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i have a estate agent with 4 large double windows and a few single windows and i have just started wfp on them .
If trad i would have to use the Pointer and mess about , i also clean the facia sign boards above each time therefore the wfp equipment is out anyway so i might as well do the windows with the pole .
Time wise probably slightly quicker with the pole due to being out anyway to do the sign boards , however if it was just the windows then i would maybe trad them .
But i have spent a lot on the wfp so why not use it ,also its on a busy road so wfp stays cleaner for longer , Apparently .
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 10:40:55 AM » |
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trad has its place and here is one area that it is good at, I would trad show fronts my self for a number of reasons. 1 save time and water 2 in the winter you're not leaving ice water by shop fronts 3 don't have to worry of people getting in the way of WFP equipment or tripping over Just my thoughts  |
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kempy
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 11:25:40 AM » |
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for me using the pole is quicker , as i need a double extension ladder out to clean the signage boards . Then i need the pointer out to do the 10ft ish windows .There are about 3 large double fronts , large door way and a few individual windows .
If it was just the windows then i would Trad but due to doing the signage its easy to get just one tool out for the job .
Imagine having to use 2 different tyoes of ladder on one job , when you have thousands £'s worth of pole to use .
I have done it trad about 6x and wfp x2 , and i think im quicker with the Pole .
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Mr Bit
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 03:36:44 PM » |
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I was talking to a w/c a while ago, he does most of the shops in a local high st (trad).
Anyway he went on holiday for two weeks and got someone in to cover his work whilst he was away, the guy he got to cover was wfp and he flooded most of the shops entrances out.
He wasn't to happy when he came back to all the moans and groans.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 09:12:28 PM » |
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trad has its place and here is one area that it is good at, I would trad show fronts my self for a number of reasons. 1 save time and water 2 in the winter you're not leaving ice water by shop fronts 3 don't have to worry of people getting in the way of WFP equipment or tripping over Just my thoughts mad doing shops WFP, we also have some on our round and they all done trad, too many risk as it is, and they double when you trailing hoses across the high street or busy public places! totaly agree with what is mentioned above |
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2010, 05:34:38 PM » |
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every thursday i start the flats above my shops and a few signs and the odd high window at 7am. I do this to avoid the shoppers. at 8ish i'll go and do whatever houses are due on the day then drop back on shops and finish trad. done this for a few years now and it works fine for me. I think it would be silly to risk tripping people with hose when streets are busy.
yes, i do clean windows in the dark mornings at 7. never had a problem.
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2010, 06:29:24 PM » |
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i did the shop fronts with wfp but soon realised that is so much quicker by trad. some conservatories that bead i also do by hand too along with some large ground floor windows. 2 shops i do have huge bay windows with smallish pains for which the pole comes out with those mind.
try and get these done early as poss but still put safty signs up. but in all fairness my town is dead even at 7.30-8.00 am. amazing just how many of the flats above dont have a w/c due to unabe to reach. when doing trad they dont ask but when they see the pole they allways just wonder if i can reach lol. result
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kempy
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2010, 07:16:10 PM » |
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I'm going to trad my large estete agent on saturday , to save water and also i have bought a large squeegee so it will be better trad .
I tried a couple opf times wfp and it wasn't a problem but just as quick trad and also save water .
I will do the facia boards wfp still .
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2010, 05:32:49 PM » |
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if you are really determined to do shops wfp surely you need 2 superlights joined ( dooooooooo  length wise ) together with 4 Pencil jets and 4mm hose ....i havent seen any real wide brushes made by anyone yet.. another thing if there is quite a bit of glass the new jacket invention by Jouk looks like a great thing to have ...put it on.. but instead of a brush use a normal trad washer and just keep washing and squeegeeing... this jacket idea is really good actually.. you dont have to cart buckets around and one hand free.. |
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