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« on: January 08, 2012, 09:07:17 PM »

Hi Guys  Finally decided to take on an employee the end of the month.How often do you pay your employees ie. weekly, fortnightly or monthly? Any other advice welcomed. Thanks in advance. Big Bird.
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 10:11:18 PM »

make sure he is self employed and on a sub contract level or you have to work out his taxes and n.i etc
pay him however you like daily weekly whatever
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 11:35:15 PM »

unless he works for him self any way ie has own round, or someone else, he cant be self employed

u can try and get away with it but if tax says he is employed you get a nice bill
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2012, 08:16:04 AM »

16 hours per week on 6 quid an hour = 96.00 just under the limit for paying tax,16 hours qualifys an employee for working tax credits if he has a family,this tops up his wages,tell him to pay his own class 2 national insurance 75 quid per quater and jobs a goodun,all leagal and above board.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2012, 07:54:54 PM »

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16 hours per week on 6 quid an hour = 96.00 just under the limit for paying tax,16 hours qualifys an employee for working tax credits if he has a family,this tops up his wages,tell him to pay his own class 2 national insurance 75 quid per quater and jobs a goodun,all leagal and above board.

But if he solely works for you, and you dictate his hours, and he uses your equipment, then theoretically he should be employed. Though most lads would just take him on as a subby.
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2012, 10:35:27 PM »

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16 hours per week on 6 quid an hour = 96.00 just under the limit for paying tax,16 hours qualifys an employee for working tax credits if he has a family,this tops up his wages,tell him to pay his own class 2 national insurance 75 quid per quater and jobs a goodun,all leagal and above board.

But if he solely works for you, and you dictate his hours, and he uses your equipment, then theoretically he should be employed. Though most lads would just take him on as a subby.

he is employed,  in the eyes of the tax man,  and that is who you got to convience he is self employed
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2012, 11:14:51 PM »

i've heard of people who have 4 or 5 different employees on a part time basis so they don't have to work out taxes, just give a wage packet every week with hours x hourly rate and the solicitor said it was fine,as kirky alluded to, just fill in a p60 every year.
all this employed sub contract stuff might be technically wrong, but i can't imagine the book being chucked at you, after all, you're doing the government a favor by taking someone off benifits or at least reducing them, if you insist on it all been declared. one man bands with hired help are small fry at the end of the day, all you want is to avoid pointless red tape, otherwise you would'nt bother employing, and the other guy claims dole
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2012, 11:24:03 PM »

there is a difference between some one working less than 16 hours so they dont earn enough to pay tax, and some employing someone as self employed so that they dont have to pay there tax and holiday pay
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 11:35:28 PM »

i agree entirely, all i'm saying is that if a bloke's in a position where he can only just employ someone on a let's say 25 hour basis and could'nt reasonably give all the holiday perks, or figure out the paye system week by week, and certainly could'nt afford to hire anyone to do that, i just think the taxman would give you the breathing space untill (or if) the business built big enough to do so, the're not allways the bloodsucking vampires the're made out to be. but would be very different if you are employed on paye by your own business or you had a fleet of vans with men working full time hours
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