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« on: February 25, 2008, 06:18:36 PM »

I'm a bit of a beginner hence the basic question here. I use a microfibre cloth for detailing my windows but I've noticed that when I use it that there often appears to be smudging. Am I using the wrong type of cloth or doing something else wrong?

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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2008, 06:46:16 PM »

Make sure the cloth is dry and clean
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2008, 07:23:21 PM »

as soon as the microfibre is damp this will happen i went back to using scrims they stay dry longer
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2008, 08:09:14 PM »

Mocrofibre cloths and micro fibre scrims are two diferent thing's at least the ones I use are. I bought a few of clow groups own blue microfibre scrims and find them to be excellent and and do last longer also they can be tumble dried which can be helpfull when you need your clothes washed and dried pretty quick at times unlike ordinary scrims tumble drying them makes them too soft.

The ordinary microfibre cloth I use is the light green unger micro fibre cloth and I would not use this as a scrim as when it becomes wet it gets very wet, I use it too remove some stuborn marks that does not require to be removed by a blade.

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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 03:56:27 PM »

I use two grades of micro fibre cloth. One looks like toweling and I use this for wet areas frames etc. and the other is the fine microfibre (green unger cloths) for polishing up smudges etc. on the glass, the green cloth stays dry for ages and gives exelent results.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 04:20:24 PM »

Also if you wipe your squeegee before you do each window less suds will be left to detail.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 06:54:46 PM »

It's not so much the suds as dirty water that's dripping down the sides of the windows. I'm looking into getting a SPC squeegee to try and reduce this especially for my pole work. I was out cleaning today and thought I'd done a good job of some windows and then sun came out - the sides of the frames were manky as anything. I was most embarrassed!
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2008, 03:12:24 AM »

Have you tried using a scrim to detail instead of a mocrofibre cloth. What type of frames were they?
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2008, 02:16:18 PM »

There are too many variables here to see exactly what you are doing wrong.
Try only using one or two fingers in your cloth, you should never have to use more than 1 finger to wipe up excess water. Make sure that your cloth has only been drip-dried & not machine dried -picking up lint.
Are you rubbing silicon moulding?  Are you straight pulling or fanning?
The more we know - the more we are not stabbing in the dark at a solution for you.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2008, 08:41:45 PM »

PVC windows that sometimes have silicon moulding. I'm straight pulling as fanning isn't a skill I've acquired yet.

I thought microfibre cloths would be better than scrims. I've got scrims but use them just for wiping the window sills as the material doesn't feel "right" to use against a window. It's only about a fingers worth of water but it does detract from the good job I've made of the rest of the window!
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2008, 11:53:26 PM »

Hi Chopper,
 Are your scrims broken-in properly? If theyr'e not they will feel terrible.
I only use micro-fibre cloths on my Wagtail detailing tool, but use scrim still on bottom windows.
I'm not sure which is best yet.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2008, 12:10:20 AM »

Errr... That's the first I've heard about breaking scrims in. I'm a bit of a beginner I'm not afraid to admit!
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2008, 12:40:35 AM »

i buy my scrims pre washed but still need broken in just keep rinsing them in hot water no detergent and wring them out and keep doing it. a lot of people just leave it in there bucket for a few weeks not using them but they wear to quick and you cant get the detergent out of them. personally i only use them on the glass and use cheap floor cloths on the sills and frames although you can buy sill cloths for the job. where do you live because it would be far easier just for someone to show you
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2008, 12:56:06 AM »

also when you say straight pulling do go from top to bottom or side to side either ways you will still get problems
sorry not being helpull here just trying to figure what your doing
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2008, 01:27:08 AM »

OK, so straight pulling leaves an amount of water on the left hand side from where you start (if you are pulling left to right).
You need to cut a line down the left hand side of the glass before stroking L to R. Do this with 1" to 2" of the rubber angled against the glass with your squeegee & pull vertically down - so 1" to 2" is touching the glass the other end is off the window.
Once you have done your first stroke - wipe the blade the full length, only then take the next stroke.
Once you get used to this, you will find by tapping your squeegee in the wet area, instead of wiping will do the trick for you.

Prewashed scrim after a couple of washes is the best material, I find microfibre looses its usefulness after the first wash.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2008, 10:07:47 PM »

give me a good quality scrim any day,keep em as dry as possible,if you got a van put em over the heater vents,and blast them with hot air between calls. Grin
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