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JD2
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« on: April 04, 2007, 02:42:38 PM »

Hi everyone,  I live in Australia and carry all my equipment on my belts.
The items carryed are :  squee gee
                                     applicator
                                      4 inch scrapemaster blade
                                      a philips head and standard scew drivers
                                      clean scims ( in a bag )
                                      dirty skrim bag
                                      sports dring bottle containing cleaning solution
                                      small bottle of concentrate cleaning solution
                                       extra squee gee rubbers
                                       4 inch squee gee
                                       applicator cover for colonial windows
                                       hose fittings
I carry all the equipment on 3 seperate belts.  I never have to move or bend down for a bucket.  Always have clean skrims and a bag handy for the dirty ones.  Always have two hands free with my applicator / squee gee and my scrapemaster at my side,  handy when doing ladder / roof work.  There is always a tap handy so I never run out of cleaning solution because I carry a concentrated solution with me.  I always use screw drivers to get flyscreens off and have these at hand on my squee gee / applicator belt.  I have my 4 inch sqee gee at hand on a loop in my belt and applicator cover for colonial windows,  extra rubbers and hose fittings in a bag attached to a belt.  I am having great success with this method and am able to clean a large hospital without having to ever move a bucket or go back to the van every half / hour to replencish my equipment.  Its great when you have to do ledge , ladder and roof work,  you can just keep going.  You always have the correct ammout of water on your applicator,  need a little more water,  there it is,  strapped to your hip on a belt.  If your not impressed with this system.........the only other treasured screat I have is the window cleaning industrys best kept screat.............honestly using cloudy ammonia to clean windows changed my professional life and for all the non believers who wont even try this product,  Ive heard it all before from people here in Australia but for those who maybe give it a go will very impressed with the results.  I have seen these results every day for 20 years and some days even suprise myself (  if not always my customes ).  It gives you a great powerful cleaning solution that melts the dirt away and makes the inside view of the window seen as its disappears and the outside view with a great glazes appearence.  Fantastic for mirrors,  now honestly they really come out glazed.  For people in England,  just look for a product at the local grocery shopping centre in the cleaning  section and get the one that has Ammonia somewhere in the title.  You can buy the 80 % Ammonia but it is too strong so dont use it neat,  you can buy this from chemical distrubuters,  so for cri key sake water it down.  I have used the neat product and wow.......it really, really cleans the galass but gets on your throat too mush ( Im a smoker )                              
                                                     
Hoping to hear for the believers and non believers soon.

Regards

JD2
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2007, 08:48:18 PM »

Get yourself a "leatherman", you  can loose all those screwdrivers then.
What do you do when your scrubber is so filthy that it needs washing out?
Don't use ammonia - it will kill you eventually. If you read some old posts on the American forums, they have all regretted it.
Never have 2 hands free on a ladder if you can help it - follow the 3 point contact rule.
I also keep a 4" sueegee on one of my belt loops  Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2007, 07:31:04 PM »

Hi,
   Been using some of the methods you use for a while now. I especially like the bottle on your belt idea, I realy get on well with this but I occasionally return to the car for the odd thing rather than overload myself with gear.
I find that a bottle of solution (1 litre) lasts much longer than I ever emagined when I first started and have never looked back. I use mainly Wagtail which no doubt will warm your heart! So, if and when the applicator pad gets too dirty I either rinse it under somones tap, or just change it for a fresh one. It's real quick because I use the velcro type of attachements. Iv'e been using GG4 recently too. Also I do a lot more polework now I got the Wagtail sorted.
Keep it going, if it works for you great.
Chris.

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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2007, 12:17:01 PM »

Thanks for your reply Karl,  still keeping a close eye on the Forum. Smiley  As Chris said,  you can rinse out the dirt every now and then under a tap,  but personally I hose down ALL of my jobs so when I comes to squee geeing the outside glass there is no dirt on it.  The Ammonia you are talking about is the industrial strength 90 % stuff,  I use Cloudy Ammonia which is a watered down version of Ammonia.  On the side of the bottle they recommend that you use it in the kitchen / bathroom and in the laundry wash and there is not chemical warning on the bottle.

Thanks for you comments Chris...I know,  I know...the bottle on the belt is fantastic,  you get the exact ammount of water on your applicator that you need and you never have to stop,  great for roof line and ledge work.  Try the clean and dirty skrims on a belt,  it works as well as the bottle idea.  I also carry a concentrated soap solution with me diluted with cloudy ammonia and I run a couple of line of it on my applicator and it makes my bubbles really small and helps heaps by making it easier cutting the corners and edges in.  Where abouts do you live Chris and are you a non believer (  like me ) of the water fed pole system ?  I dont use a wagtail squee gee,  most of the work of the squee gee is cutting the edges and corners in,  so if you dont have a ridged squee gee,  you cant control the pressure your applying when you cut the edges and corners in.

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JD2
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2007, 11:36:31 PM »

When ammonia was first made from coal tar, the solutions were very murky. Later, the "Haber" process for fixing the nitrogen of the air gave a very pure product, but by this time people were used to "cloudy ammonia". For this reason soap is added to keep pure, clear ammonia - "cloudy".

Ammonia vapour is extremely irritating and the solution is very alkaline and acts as a caustic.

Please read all the way through (its a killer):-

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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2007, 11:54:59 AM »

Thanks again for you comments Karl, I will check the site out BUT this issue closly shadows the arguement about going up ladders,  is using ladders safe or un safe,  Of coarse I am the first to agree that cloudy ammonia is toxic but in all the trades people are useing all sorts of toxic chemicals...the fiberglass industry,  painters,  carpet layers ( the glue they use ) even school teachers using the white chalk ( streaching it a bit ).  My arguement that if your aware of what your doing ( or using ) either going up a ladder or using a chemical to complete your work should not be a problem as long as you take approperate steps to make the use of the equipment or chemicals is done so in a safe manner.  I sure that cloudy ammonia is not as toxic as you may think.  Its recommended here to be used in your washing and in the bathroom and kitchen areas.  There are no chemical hazard symbols on the bottle.  I have used the 90 % version of ammonia and I agree with you that this stuff can burn the paint off of a door but the cloudy ammonia version is a lot less toxic.  Anyway,  if you use a squee gee to clean your windows try strapping everything to your belts...a sports drink bottle for your cleaning solution, a bag for clean cloths and one for dirty cloths....no joking my Spainish amego you will have a hole lot of freedom and save hours from not having to retrieve your bucket,  time after time after....
Im also having great sucess in hosing down my jobs before i squee gee them off.  Instead of endlessly trying to wipe the frames clean and mucking out the tracks on the sliding doors,  hoseing down leaves the fames and tracks washed and the glass is left clean.  While I am hoseing down the windows I hose off the eves,  window ledge,  gutters and paving where required which leaves the job really fresh and my clients love it.  I know this system works because I have done jobs washing down first and not washing them down and the wash down job is the easier one to do and looks better.  I washed down a whole primary school and saved myself hours with not having to wipe every frame and with no dirt on the glass squee geeing was made easy.  Try hosing down glass bricks ( if its a large area ) all the dirt is washed away and you only have to buff the glass clean  (  also good on stained glass and especially french styled windows  ).

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2007, 07:06:50 PM »

Well at least you know the dangers now, JD2.

I hope no one else will go down the cloudy ammonia route, as I've mentioned before, many others have used this in the States & were very ill & caused irreversible damage to their bodies. Thats why they make pro' window cleaning fluid!
I advise you to check out the link I posted - its Australian - for your benefit.
Even the Australian government list it as a hazard in the workplace: -
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Don't think I'm getting at you JD2, its just a chemical that I wouldn't advise using (I used to be a chemical technician at I.C.I.  in Australa & the UK). I have even been gassed my ammonia in the UK.
For this reason, please don't promote this product on this forum any more for health & legal reasons.


You could have the same argument of time saving by just using a wfp on the screens, frames etc, with the windows to boot. I also used to carry a bottle on a belt around, but found it useless for cleaning out my scrubber & once you go looking for a tap, I'm better off with my bucket. I think its a good system if the windows are relatively clean.
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2007, 08:05:32 PM »

Hi JD2,
   I agree with you on the control you get with a fixed blade as opposed to the Wagtail but Iv'e got used to it now and seem to be able to a reasonable job especially with the Flipper. One tool instead of two. Went back to conventional blade and mop yesterday just to compare and I just couldn't get on with it. I use the Wagtail flipper for my pole-work too (with a small mod) and its absolutly brill!
Iv'e heard of the ammonia thing before and was thinking of trying it, but after what karl has said I don't know. Having said that I do understand about the watered-down type and the dangerous industrial one.
I do have a waterfed pole system. I bought it for an office block I got but theres some dispute over contracts and I fear I may have wasted my money. Comletely my own fault as I failed to check properly, and wait for my quote to be accepted. It's a good system but I havn't used it on any domestic yet, but I'm working on it.
I still rate traditional at the moment.
I live in Durham in U.K. y the way.
Keep up the good work, it's obvious that you are well into window cleaning and continuously look for ways to improve as I do. You need a certain amount of enthusiasm to be able to cope with this type of work.
In the past 20 years Iv'e been through a lot of phases but I still posess an element of enthusiasm.
Cheers Chris.
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