Chez111
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« on: July 26, 2011, 10:27:06 AM » |
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Hi everyone,i am buying a small round to boost my income so i am new to window cleaning. I have been practicing on my own patio doors and seem to have the basic technique and getting good results useing the dog ear idea. i watched a window cleaner do a neighbours upstairs with a pole and when he squeegeed of he pulled doen top to bottom but did not dry his blade before doing his next stroke, would this not leave a streak at the top of the glass? he did detail across the top but only with a jay cloth... would this not leave a smear? Any advive at all would be much appreciated as i think my head is about to explode..... P.s i got the neighbour as a customer now and i,ve not even started yet! 
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kitehighland
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 05:25:32 PM » |
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for best results doing that method i would say use a wagtail. wagga has some vids on youtube showing how he does it and also showing his little attachment on the back for wrapping a bit of scrim to for detailing. i use a wagtail on a pole for high internal windows and depending on the width and shape at the top would either use the standard figure of 8 pattern or of late have been playing with these downward draws but using the hinge of the wagtail to apply a slight angle to the blade as i drag downwards.
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hilly
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 08:50:16 PM » |
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I find that the slight angle prevents any lines appearing too.
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Chez111
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 10:12:42 PM » |
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Thanks guys i have watched the vids and have a wagtail on order!
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stuart mci
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 10:19:09 PM » |
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right when poleing glass soap up, start with dry blade, downward pull then tap the blade on another part of window, then next pull and so on, this stops the runs at top of window, but to be honest on domestic I wouldn't even attempt it unless you are really good with a pole,
and to answer your question yes it will leave a mess at top of glass and yes detailing without a scrim or microfibre is pointless, but he may get away with with it if he is cheap enough, personally I would be up the ladder doing it properly if i didn't have wfp
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windyman
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 11:09:48 PM » |
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As said, put a slight angle (if you're going left to right, you want ur pole this sort of angle \ ) and that should stop any lines.
Also good tip- Don't mop right up to top of window, leave a cm or so. So when you blade u wont have much mess at the top of the window.
As for the other guy- u sure it was a jay cloth & not a microfibre scrim? Could look similar from a distance. You'll able to see how good a job he did if you have it now anyway.
All the best!
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 11:43:58 PM » |
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No offence but,If you are new to window cleaning there is no way you will be able to do upper windows to a good standard using a pole,I still do a wee bit of trad work and always use a ladder
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hilly
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2011, 12:54:17 AM » |
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its not easy using pole but after acouple of month practicing I am really satisfied with it. I nearly always come home after a days clean and clean my bedroom window , then run upstairs to check that I am still doing well.... and I am but I must admit that I use 2 poles , one to clean and the other with two seperate home made bits , one to make sure nothing is left on the pain and another to clean frames and sills. Got to say I am well impressed with the result , love the wagtail
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hilly
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2011, 12:56:49 AM » |
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right when poleing glass soap up, start with dry blade, downward pull then tap the blade on another part of window, then next pull and so on, this stops the runs at top of window, but to be honest on domestic I wouldn't even attempt it unless you are really good with a pole,
and to answer your question yes it will leave a mess at top of glass and yes detailing without a scrim or microfibre is pointless, but he may get away with with it if he is cheap enough, personally I would be up the ladder doing it properly if i didn't have wfp
I find cleaning with straight pulls is asking for trouble. I always angle in on the top of the window and then come down at an angle and rarely leave any suds... if I do I use my other pole to tidy up
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2011, 01:06:53 AM » |
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In there, I think you'll find a 'using a pole' set of videos. You are not allowed to view links.
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Chez111
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2011, 05:00:44 AM » |
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Thanks guys I intend to use ladders but There are some windows that can only be reached by a pole. I have got the wagtail now so will be having a go on my own windows.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2011, 08:00:43 PM » |
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Are Polish people better at getting at hard to reach windows then? 
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stuart mci
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2011, 10:05:56 PM » |
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Are Polish people better at getting at hard to reach windows then?  yes they don't mind sloping roofs and H&S 
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2011, 09:21:28 AM » |
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pole as best u can it comes with practise, then wrap a scrim round end of pole & hold in place with laccy band & detail no probs also quick rub over any lines n jobs a good un
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wagga
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2011, 08:48:13 PM » |
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it takes one hell of a lot of practice to do a consistently good job with a pole but it can be done. I am now fast with it too. The reason I did all the mods that you can see on my vids is to get the speed up. If you keep having to bring the pole down too often, then it becomes too tedious and slow. If you incorporate all the mods that I recommend and practice like hell, you might surprise yourself. You are not allowed to view links.
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Chez111
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2011, 11:04:59 AM » |
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Thanks everyone I had a little practice last night with my new wagtail and have to say it was hard,at least I did,nt break the bedroom window lol. I find the rubber in the wagtail to hard, would I be better to change to a softer one? And when detailing should the scrim or micro fibre be completely dry or damp. Once again guys thankyou very much for you invaluable help. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2011, 11:49:52 AM » |
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i found that the initial problem converting to the wagtail was the different angle that you hold it to the window compared to a standard squeegie. i now use wagtail tools and nowt else for trad work so isnt an issue anymore. re the rubber, have just gone back to the wagtail rubber myself as for indoor (warm) work i find it slides much easier and am sure it lasts longer.
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2011, 12:21:24 AM » |
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I find the rubber in the wagtail to hard, would I be better to change to a softer one? And when detailing should the scrim or micro fibre be completely dry or damp.
Wagtail rubber is perfect for hot weather. Change to soft for colder climates. Make your clean cloth humid! Not wet & not dry.
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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2011, 02:04:24 PM » |
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pole as best u can it comes with practise, then wrap a scrim round end of pole & hold in place with laccy band & detail no probs also quick rub over any lines n jobs a good un
Or you could always do this....................You are not allowed to view links.
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