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« on: March 22, 2010, 08:00:42 PM »

What are the other suds like to use , and price  W5 ?   ,  gg3   , gg4   Huh?Huh?Huh???

Never had a problem with fairy , but i can always try something else , i'm mostly wfp but still trad a few

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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2010, 08:09:25 PM »

gg3 is completely different to fairy. there is no white suds.

downside is its hard to see on the window. you have to be light handed
upside there is next to nothing to wipe up of the sills and you get a cracking shine
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2010, 08:21:38 PM »

well I am a master of trad with fairy , and also yorkshire's finest with the Pole .
I may give it a go .
Does a professional like yourself use gg3 ,
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2010, 08:27:47 PM »

been on wintecs site and they sell 1litre for £7 , also gg4 as well , is the 4 better ?
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2010, 09:20:12 PM »

kempy i ordered a free sample from somewhere just to try before i bought some. GG3 is for soft water areas and GG4 for hard.

i use fairy most of the time but i will be ordering some gg3 this week and using it from now on
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2010, 11:27:37 PM »

we have tried everything over the yrs gg3 is great used it for yrs, moved over to ionics trade secret 6 months ago its by far the best we've ever used and a £6.95 for 5ltrs its great value for money
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2010, 01:09:06 AM »

are you the man that buys everything from ionics , so maybe u are a little biased . Grin Grin
only joking , may try it or gg4
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2010, 01:14:32 AM »

lol i know what u mean mate im always banging on bout ionics but this stuff is great honest give it a whirl
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2010, 01:15:21 AM »

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heres a link to the place i got free samples why not try gg3 and 4 and see what works best
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2010, 11:44:44 PM »

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heres a link to the place i got free samples why not try gg3 and 4 and see what works best
Super link, thanks for that!
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2010, 12:00:41 AM »

I'm a funny old  [ I should have amended this post ] . After 20 odd years slagging off mate's who use gg3 and the like when i always advocated Fairy liquid as a cheap and cheery make do, I finally bit the bullet and splashed out on some gg3.
Brilliant stuff for squegeeing glass, end off. Slip is tremendous, soap is almost non existent making wiping sill's a quick doddle and the finish will blind a blind man. Twenty years I farted around with fairy and latterly ww5 from lidl but non can match gg3 for me. 
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2010, 07:46:11 PM »

well Ronnie with your experiance and advise i will go and buy some .i guess you just add a little to your water as per fairy .
My water is hard water tds of 350 , so would i need gg4
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2010, 08:44:02 PM »

Kempy, it takes a day or two to get used to it, you have to be very light working the blade on the glass and it only need's a thimblefull to mix, it really is super concentrated, you wont see nearly as much soap on the glass but that's normal and still slips a treat.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2010, 10:17:52 PM »

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are you the man that buys everything from ionics , so maybe u are a little biased . Grin Grin
only joking , may try it or gg4
o steveo and the other two ionic twins are dare i say it a little biased towards ionics.me thinks they are ionics salesman in fancydress. Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue
funny how all three are called steve Shocked Huh?
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2010, 09:50:46 PM »

16 years of fairy then i tried gg3!why didnt i try pro detergent before?absolutely brilliant!i will never go back to washing up liquid again!!ill be mainly wfp soon but any trad will have gg3 in the bucket!! Cheesy Cheesy

hardly any suds to mop up(esp noticable on dark wood/pvc frames)and a great shine and doesnt seem to leave the white marks that fairy used to leave.

only downside is its hard to see what your doing properly when trad poling(esp when its 25 ft in the air!!).i find its better to put a bit extra in.i use about 20ml per 7/8lt of water for pole work or if the windows are really dirty!!

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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2010, 10:03:15 PM »

Well here is me being contradictive of myself again. Still use gg3 everyday and think it is far better than fairy. But has anyone noticed that on really sunny days it leaves direction change marks as your rubber twists and turns. On a cloudy day it's super but in sunshine I am finding it a wee bit frustrating. Huh?
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2010, 08:58:11 PM »

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Well here is me being contradictive of myself again. Still use gg3 everyday and think it is far better than fairy. But has anyone noticed that on really sunny days it leaves direction change marks as your rubber twists and turns. On a cloudy day it's super but in sunshine I am finding it a wee bit frustrating. Huh?

That is why most regular gg3 users, well in the USA anyway, will put a dash of dish soap in with it.  Defeats the purpose if you ask me, just as well with the dish soap.  The above reason was also the reason for Titan Labs introducing GG4 a bit more of a suds about it, more glide, and easier to see on the glass.

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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2010, 09:39:15 PM »

great ive just ordered a bottle of gg3 Roll Eyes
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2010, 11:22:33 PM »

you wont be dissapointed stu.the first couple of days youll be buzzing at the shine on the windows and the very little suds on frames/sills!

i dont really have much of a prob with direction changes in warmer weather i just use more water and a tad more gg3.that usually cures it!! Wink Grin Grin
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2010, 11:37:13 PM »

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you wont be dissapointed stu.the first couple of days youll be buzzing at the shine on the windows and the very little suds on frames/sills!

i dont really have much of a prob with direction changes in warmer weather i just use more water and a tad more gg3.that usually cures it!! Wink Grin Grin

yes daz ive used it before and loved it Wink just ran out a while ago and went back to fairy
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2010, 05:52:06 PM »

just to let you know ionics trade secret is hard work in the sun you gotta be real quick or it wii dry up instantly, mite get back on the GG3 for the summer
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2010, 02:29:39 AM »

i use my ro water + gg3. no better combo i say
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2010, 12:27:35 AM »

On W5 at the moment but not getting much slip from it. Think its the hard water.
  I used Morning fresh for years and occassionally Fairy.
  I,m going to try Fairy again next. just hope it doesnt build up too much suds in the Wagtail sleeve.
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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2010, 08:05:52 PM »

I think youv'e got a point with the hard water. Maybe thats why I get good slip here in Durham as my water it about 70-80ppm so its good.
The collecting rain water is a good idea. The Fairy suds might build up as you say but you could use less Fairy especially if with rainwater.
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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2010, 09:38:46 PM »

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Well here is me being contradictive of myself again. Still use gg3 everyday and think it is far better than fairy. But has anyone noticed that on really sunny days it leaves direction change marks as your rubber twists and turns. On a cloudy day it's super but in sunshine I am finding it a wee bit frustrating. Huh?

That is why most regular gg3 users, well in the USA anyway, will put a dash of dish soap in with it.  Defeats the purpose if you ask me, just as well with the dish soap.  The above reason was also the reason for Titan Labs introducing GG4 a bit more of a suds about it, more glide, and easier to see on the glass.

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i used gg3 for years when i was trad, i'm mainly wfp these days,  recently i have been mixing a little cyrstal clear (window cleaning solution sold by my local cleaning supplies shop) with a little gg3, on it's own gg3 does not have enough slip, which contributes to squeegie lines showing on bright day's,  and mixing the 2 makes trad poling shops better,as you can easily see what you are doing, this solution i use is out performing either on it's own , the addition of a small amount of gg3- to cyrstal clear really brings out the shine on the glass, and cuts through dirt and grease with ease.

when doing internal windows , where they are smokers, i often add a splash of sugar soap as well , the slip is tremendous, and results are perfectly clean windows.


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